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		<title>Comment on Media Tech Tonic #15: Sherry Turkle: Simulation and Its Discontents by David Tames</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Tames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our conversation got into Skype, and this morning I read the article &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1952314,00.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Call Me! But Not on Skype or Any Other Videophone&lt;/a&gt;&quot; by Joel Stein which touches on why people don&#039;t like Skype. He mentions Turkle&#039;s new book, &lt;em&gt;Alone Together&lt;/em&gt;, coming out later this year, in which she writes about a study in which she found that people like to talk to robots. Stein paraphrases Turkle, &quot;As soon as you ask people to interact with a computer with artificial intelligence, they start unloading secrets. Robots, it seems, are less likely to take over the earth than they are daytime-television hosting jobs.&quot; This was Joseph Weizenbaum&#039;s concern way back in the 1970s when he wrote &lt;em&gt;Computer Power and Human Reason&lt;/em&gt; and it looks like Turkle&#039;s studies now confirm his worst nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our conversation got into Skype, and this morning I read the article &#8220;<a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1952314,00.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Call Me! But Not on Skype or Any Other Videophone</a>&#8221; by Joel Stein which touches on why people don&#8217;t like Skype. He mentions Turkle&#8217;s new book, <em>Alone Together</em>, coming out later this year, in which she writes about a study in which she found that people like to talk to robots. Stein paraphrases Turkle, &#8220;As soon as you ask people to interact with a computer with artificial intelligence, they start unloading secrets. Robots, it seems, are less likely to take over the earth than they are daytime-television hosting jobs.&#8221; This was Joseph Weizenbaum&#8217;s concern way back in the 1970s when he wrote <em>Computer Power and Human Reason</em> and it looks like Turkle&#8217;s studies now confirm his worst nightmare.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Media Tech Tonic #15: Sherry Turkle: Simulation and Its Discontents by David Tames</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Tames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou, I think you bring up an interesting point differentiating between &quot;user-centered design&quot; vs.  &quot;user-designed,&quot; and this ties into Sherry Turkle&#039;s ethnographic and psychoanalytical approach which helps her tease out the difference between what people say they want and what people actually do and long for. I think this also connects with Jaron Lanier&#039;s critique of the &quot;hive mind&quot; in his &lt;em&gt;You Are Not a Gadget&lt;/em&gt; manifesto. While McLuhan encourages a certain type of technological deterministic thinking about how our media shapes us, ultimately, our tools are in part social constructions, and how we imagine them influences how they are made too. It&#039;s a complex process, while we make our tools and then our tools shape us, I would add to to that that after our tools shape us, we shape new tools, and it&#039;s a cycle, it&#039;s a two way energy flow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou, I think you bring up an interesting point differentiating between &#8220;user-centered design&#8221; vs.  &#8220;user-designed,&#8221; and this ties into Sherry Turkle&#8217;s ethnographic and psychoanalytical approach which helps her tease out the difference between what people say they want and what people actually do and long for. I think this also connects with Jaron Lanier&#8217;s critique of the &#8220;hive mind&#8221; in his <em>You Are Not a Gadget</em> manifesto. While McLuhan encourages a certain type of technological deterministic thinking about how our media shapes us, ultimately, our tools are in part social constructions, and how we imagine them influences how they are made too. It&#8217;s a complex process, while we make our tools and then our tools shape us, I would add to to that that after our tools shape us, we shape new tools, and it&#8217;s a cycle, it&#8217;s a two way energy flow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Media Tech Tonic #15: Sherry Turkle: Simulation and Its Discontents by lou suSi</title>
		<link>http://mediatechtonic.com/media-tech-tonic-15/#comment-3029</link>
		<dc:creator>lou suSi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 06:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fantastic Media Tech Tonic tonight ... matters very near + dear to the heart + all its tiny microprocessings

one of the most important take always here in many respects, but one that i come across time + time again as a user experience professional ... just because you can build something doesn&#039;t necessarily mean you should build it ... vital in many respects as a designer that likes to help keep the business side in check

many times i come to an interface that is like Times Square Souffle times ten ... if you research the product, its essential functionality, and the experience components users value and use the most, 9 times out of 10 you can remove huge chunks of extra information + affordance to lighten options + really drive to a much cleaner, clearer overall user experience

yet, a business will sometimes put in all sorts of mayhem simply because it took the time to develop batches of functionality in reaction to single request hits from small clusters of users

very important to remember its called &#039;user-centered design&#039; and NOT &#039;user-designed&#039; ... yes, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fantastic Media Tech Tonic tonight &#8230; matters very near + dear to the heart + all its tiny microprocessings</p>
<p>one of the most important take always here in many respects, but one that i come across time + time again as a user experience professional &#8230; just because you can build something doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean you should build it &#8230; vital in many respects as a designer that likes to help keep the business side in check</p>
<p>many times i come to an interface that is like Times Square Souffle times ten &#8230; if you research the product, its essential functionality, and the experience components users value and use the most, 9 times out of 10 you can remove huge chunks of extra information + affordance to lighten options + really drive to a much cleaner, clearer overall user experience</p>
<p>yet, a business will sometimes put in all sorts of mayhem simply because it took the time to develop batches of functionality in reaction to single request hits from small clusters of users</p>
<p>very important to remember its called &#8216;user-centered design&#8217; and NOT &#8216;user-designed&#8217; &#8230; yes, yes?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Media Tech Tonic #13: Leah Buechley: High-Low Tech by David Tames</title>
		<link>http://mediatechtonic.com/media-tech-tonic-13/#comment-3017</link>
		<dc:creator>David Tames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda, I&#039;ve fixed the date, thanks for the note, the event is on Thursday, March 18th...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, I&#8217;ve fixed the date, thanks for the note, the event is on Thursday, March 18th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Media Tech Tonic #13: Leah Buechley: High-Low Tech by Amanda</title>
		<link>http://mediatechtonic.com/media-tech-tonic-13/#comment-3016</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to correct the date listed above - I was confused for a moment, and worried that I&#039;d missed the event!  (It lists the day as Thursday, March 17th above). Fulling intending to be there tomorrow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to correct the date listed above &#8211; I was confused for a moment, and worried that I&#8217;d missed the event!  (It lists the day as Thursday, March 17th above). Fulling intending to be there tomorrow!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Media Tech Tonic #12: Joseph Auner: Losing your voice: sampled speech and song from the uncanny to the unremarkable. by David Tames</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Tames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And he referenced the book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0822325721?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kinoeyecom-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0822325721&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Haunted Media: Electronic Presence from Telegraphy to Television&lt;/a&gt; by Jeffrey Sconce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And he referenced the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0822325721?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kinoeyecom-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0822325721" rel="nofollow">Haunted Media: Electronic Presence from Telegraphy to Television</a> by Jeffrey Sconce</p>
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		<title>Comment on Media Tech Tonic #12: Joseph Auner: Losing your voice: sampled speech and song from the uncanny to the unremarkable. by Alison K.</title>
		<link>http://mediatechtonic.com/media-tech-tonic-12/#comment-2947</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Music Joseph referenced in his talk:

Prefuse 73 - &quot;Nuno&quot;
MF Doom
DJ Food and DK - &quot;Now Listen Again&quot;
Steve Reich - &quot;Reich Remixed&quot;
Blockhead - &quot;Music by Cavelight&quot;
The Books - &quot;Lost and Safe&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Music Joseph referenced in his talk:</p>
<p>Prefuse 73 &#8211; &#8220;Nuno&#8221;<br />
MF Doom<br />
DJ Food and DK &#8211; &#8220;Now Listen Again&#8221;<br />
Steve Reich &#8211; &#8220;Reich Remixed&#8221;<br />
Blockhead &#8211; &#8220;Music by Cavelight&#8221;<br />
The Books &#8211; &#8220;Lost and Safe&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Media Tech Tonic #7: Kevin Brooks: Storytelling/Perpetual Design, February 25, 2009 by David Tames</title>
		<link>http://mediatechtonic.com/media-tech-tonic-7/#comment-2562</link>
		<dc:creator>David Tames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, nice to get a comment from afar,  today media tech tonic is a f2f event, perhaps we&#039;ll explore how to share it more widely in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, nice to get a comment from afar,  today media tech tonic is a f2f event, perhaps we&#8217;ll explore how to share it more widely in the future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Media Tech Tonic #8: Scott Kirsner: Inventing the Movies, March 25, 2009 by Tiil</title>
		<link>http://mediatechtonic.com/media-tech-tonic-8/#comment-2373</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
Thanks for this great evening...
Scott lecture was very informative

here are the links to the five videos from my cellphone
http://qik.com/video/1317840
http://qik.com/video/1319385
http://qik.com/video/1319412
http://qik.com/video/1319445
http://qik.com/video/1319460</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
Thanks for this great evening&#8230;<br />
Scott lecture was very informative</p>
<p>here are the links to the five videos from my cellphone<br />
<a href="http://qik.com/video/1317840" rel="nofollow">http://qik.com/video/1317840</a><br />
<a href="http://qik.com/video/1319385" rel="nofollow">http://qik.com/video/1319385</a><br />
<a href="http://qik.com/video/1319412" rel="nofollow">http://qik.com/video/1319412</a><br />
<a href="http://qik.com/video/1319445" rel="nofollow">http://qik.com/video/1319445</a><br />
<a href="http://qik.com/video/1319460" rel="nofollow">http://qik.com/video/1319460</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Media Tech Tonic #8: Scott Kirsner: Inventing the Movies, March 25, 2009 by goldman</title>
		<link>http://mediatechtonic.com/media-tech-tonic-8/#comment-2353</link>
		<dc:creator>goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heard Kirsner at Media Makers(?) maybe... he is a good speaker...one of those guys riding the media high...but would like to attend if I can...Off to Full Frame Film Festival with Jay...hope school aint killin you...been thinking about who we might be able to bring to WOods Hole...any ideas?  we already have Bestor Cram...off to the vineyard today to be with another filmmaker buddy... be well. love to da wife...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heard Kirsner at Media Makers(?) maybe&#8230; he is a good speaker&#8230;one of those guys riding the media high&#8230;but would like to attend if I can&#8230;Off to Full Frame Film Festival with Jay&#8230;hope school aint killin you&#8230;been thinking about who we might be able to bring to WOods Hole&#8230;any ideas?  we already have Bestor Cram&#8230;off to the vineyard today to be with another filmmaker buddy&#8230; be well. love to da wife&#8230;</p>
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